Maybe You Should Prep

  • by Gitabushi

Go read this article.

If you want to talk about it, talk about it there, or come back here.  He’s clearly thought this issue through quite a bit.

Hope you enjoy it.

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16 thoughts on “Maybe You Should Prep

  1. Good article. However, I think he is ignoring the fact that our infrastructure has allowed a lot of people to continue living who would have died off a century ago. I’m one of those people and so is my wife. I have insulin dependent diabetes and she has crohns. Both are kept in control by highly specialized medicine. You can’t stockpile that stuff, not just because it is highly controlled but because it has a year shelf life if refrigerated and probably 2-3 un-refrigerated.
    Same goes for a lot of people in our nation. No amount of prep is going to allow us to survive a crash.

    We have a couple of months of that freezedried food on hand but without electricity to boil water to cook it, well, um, not sure exactly. We live in the Northeast, so “winter”. We live in a condo, so no fireplace. I’ve often wondered if we should move down south just for the weather. And family.

    Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying don’t be prepared. Just be realistic that a lot of people, you (the inclusive “you” for whoever is reading, not “you” Gita) included, are probably going to die if things really collapse.

    As for guns, I recommend a 20gage shotgun if you’re a small person (ie, 5’4″ and under}. If you have to shoot multiple rounds and you don’t want to be crippled afterwards, the 20g is the way to go. My other issue with shotguns is that most pump shotguns are just too long for someone with short arms. I tried a mossberg 500 at our local gun store and my, was it a beauty. It worked great but I could only get half my left hand on the pump because the stock was just slightly too long for me.

    I am all for stockpiling what you can though. Emergencies happen, whether there is a collapse or not. Thieves will break in, or the power station will go out or the food will stop for a week. I think we should be examining the middle east countries that went through the Arab Spring to see how the “common” man survived.

    Ok, that is way more than enough from me. :-)

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    1. Personally, I think that if we have a 90% fatality SHTF scenario (like an EMP), that means that 85% of the preppers will die, too.
      If it gets that bad, will to live probably makes a bigger difference, because I believe in any conflict, the one who is more ruthless wins.
      But if you have the will to live and didn’t prep, you just made it harder for yourself.

      Meaning: prepping is no guarantee, but *not* prepping means it is more likely you will watch the ones you care about die horribly.

      So prep.

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      1. I recommend stocking up on magic the gathering cards. You can trade them to gamers who survive, use them as fuel starter or if you’re really desperate, wipes…

        And with commons and bulk collections, you can buy hundreds of thousands for mere $100’s.

        (just to keep this conversation on the level. I noticed you seemed to be getting just a bit high on the “levity” factor)

        I have to wonder though. What everyone is predicting for us, why hasn’t it already happened to other less robust nations? I was sure Greece was going to disintegrate a couple of years ago. The EU saved their bacon, but I assume other countries are in as much debt [proportionately] as us. What would happen if China, Russian or the US collapsed? Would wolves move in or would the global community help? Unless one of the rogue states really goes off the reservation I just don’t see “everyone” allowing something so big to happen, as it would domino.

        Unless you’re prepared to accept an 80’s b-flick movie doomsday scenario.

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      2. Good point.
        An EMP even combined with nuclear war could put us there pretty easily.

        The other point of prepping is that it takes time for help to arrive, and then there are still long lines. Having food, water, and cooking fuel reduces your danger, yes, but it also reduces discomfort and inconvenience once the danger is past, or if there is no real danger.

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      3. https://www.bloomberg.com/quicktake/chinas-debt-bomb

        In that article they throw the number 34 trillion around as China’s debt. Numbers like this unfortunately show the the original article you posted are extremely narrow in their scope and aren’t taking in the global view. The United States does not live in an isolated place any more. 22 trillion is horrible. But 34 trillion is 50% horrible’r. And if some writer thinks the US is going to crack before China, with numbers like that, they better have some solid reasons why.

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  2. The chances of us getting into a situation where being a prepper pays off are very low…but then that is one of those low probability, high magnitude situations that humans in general aren’t good at planning for.

    It isn’t crazy to prep. It also may very well not work, regardless. And it comes at a real cost. But I think I should at least make some basic steps in that direction. Is it crazy to put 5% of the money you put away for a rainy day toward a REALLY rainy day? (Which means not putting it into anything that can be called money (and, yes, that includes gold) at all.)

    It won’t be the men who are most ruthless who survive, but the men who bind themselves to the most other men, and most tightly, who do. There is a lot of talk of tribalism in political analysis, and it is fair, as political analysis goes. But actual tribalism? We’ve lost the mores that would allow tribalism to work. We don’t even have the survival skills our of grandfathers. We’re wealthier, far wealthier, but that magnitude just gets bigger (which, again, counsels in favor of diverting a bit toward the worst-case scenario).

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  3. I have now read the article. As a New Zealander, we are expected to be prepared for earthquakes, which happens daily here. And knowing about the prepper culture in America, it makes sense to me there and I even condone it. Living in a civilised society, we tend to forget that a natural disaster is enough for our more violent nature to emerge. Imagine if that need for survival is also fueled by ideology. So rather be prepared than not. It makes sense what the guy said, to some extent. Not everyone has money to buy extra property, though.

    I don’t share the opinion that the United States of America will cease to exist as a constitutional representative republic within 5 years, it will take longer if it ever happens. The US is quite unique in this world and has always prevailed but at a steep cost. Freedom costs a lot of blood.

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    1. To be honest, doomsayers are in every generation, and I really don’t expect a 95% die-off scenario to hit within the lifetimes of my not-yet-conceived grandchildren.

      But what motivates me to do some prepping is:
      minor annoyance events like being out of power for 2+ weeks: quite possible, even probable. Prepping helps you endure those more easily.
      Mass die-off event: extremely, extremely unlikely. But I can’t face the thought of watching people I care about starve or die from brutality, so if some minor effort now can help prevent that unlikely event, it’s worth it.

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